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see http://www.shunryusuzuki.com/suzuki/transcripts-pdf/Geist-LE/69-04-20LE.pdf:

... But you think when you have some experience of enlightenment or something, you think we can rest here, observing various sights at the top of a pole, forgetting all about to continue climbing up a pole. We say—because this is kōan, we say "usually," but "usually" people think on the top of the pole. Usually we think in that way. But actually there is no top for anything. Things are continuously growing or changing to something else. Nothing exists in its own form or color. So actually there is no top. But when we think, "Here is a top," that is already misunderstanding.

So accordingly, you have problem whether we should jump off from here [laughs]. Actually you cannot jump off [laughs—it is not possible. And even though you try to stop on the top of the pole, you cannot stay here because it is growing continuously [laughs]. So you will be continuously higher and higher. You cannot stop here. But you think it is possible. ...

– ^z 2018-06-29 09:57 UTC